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Adding latest meeting log and summary. Updating information about overlays. Assign lead position to jmbsvicetto.
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diff --git a/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20090212.txt b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20090212.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..f8d29e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20090212.txt @@ -0,0 +1,761 @@ +21:00 <@scarabeus> ok sunshines, meeting time :P +21:00 <@hwoarang> is it time? +21:00 <@scarabeus> !herd kde +21:00 * yngwin kicks Willikins +21:00 <@scarabeus> i am going to hurt willikins... +21:00 <+wired> lmao +21:00 <@hwoarang> fail? +21:00 <+MrRat> wired: do you know the amarok qt-4.5 bug at all? +21:00 <@hwoarang> errr meeting time +21:00 <+wired> yeah i read a bug you posted earlier about a missing line +21:01 <@yngwin> i'll use this clone here +21:01 <@scarabeus> :] +21:01 <@hwoarang> ok who broke Willikins +21:01 <@scarabeus> but i want that herd +21:01 <@scarabeus> !herd kde +21:01 < arachnist> hwoarang: i did +21:01 < arachnist> ;) +21:01 <+MrRat> wired: http://rafb.net/p/g1msai72.html +21:01 <@scarabeus> !herd qt +21:01 <@hwoarang> :D +21:01 <+wired> !herd kde +21:01 <@scarabeus> ok the other route +21:01 <+wired> ^_^ +21:01 <+MrRat> wired, thats it, just one line +21:02 <+wired> alright - does that work with 4.4.2 as well? +21:02 <+MrRat> wired: but the file is not generated until about 10% of the build when qtscriptgenerator runs +21:02 <@scarabeus> alexxy, bonsaikitten, cryos, hwoarang, jmbsvicetto, keytoaster, tampakrap, yngwin, dagger_, krytzz, MrRat, reavertm, Sput, wired +21:02 <@scarabeus> meeting +21:02 <@scarabeus> who is around +21:02 * alexxy here +21:02 * tampakrap +21:02 * wired ^_^ +21:02 <+Sput> see above +21:02 * hwoarang * +21:02 * yngwin is a square +21:03 <+MrRat> wired: so when the file is generated, i can edit it and back out of the directory and build is success +21:03 <+krytzz> that joke is OLD :p +21:03 * reavertm reporting +21:03 <@jmbsvicetto> Sput: You're missing people :P +21:03 * jmbsvicet waves hand +21:03 <@yngwin> krytzz: so am i ;) +21:03 <+wired> MrRat: i see +21:03 <+Sput> I'm what? +21:03 <+Sput> mostly I'm missing alcohol and inspiration right now +21:03 <@jmbsvicetto> Sput: Not in FOSDEM? ;) +21:03 <+wired> MrRat: i'll check it out after the meeting +21:04 * yngwin notes that caleb and carlo are missing as usual +21:04 <@scarabeus> ok so are we waiting on somebody else +21:04 <@scarabeus> i wrote carlo a mail +21:04 <@scarabeus> asking him to drop at least for volte :( +21:04 <@tampakrap> cryos also said he will probably be away +21:04 <+wired> we'll give him the logs ^_^ +21:05 <@scarabeus> i know about those missing i am asking if we are waiting on somebody more? +21:05 <@yngwin> bonsaikitten? +21:05 <@scarabeus> yup right +21:05 <@scarabeus> this one i would like to see :P +21:05 <@scarabeus> !lastspoke bonsaikitten +21:06 <@scarabeus> ok that bot actualy dont work now +21:06 <@hwoarang> stupid bots +21:06 -- rangerpb- is now known as rangerhomezzz +21:06 <@scarabeus> ok i give him 4 minutes (agreed?) +21:06 <@tampakrap> ok +21:06 <@hwoarang> k +21:06 <@tampakrap> should i call him? :) +21:06 <@scarabeus> so he has 10 minutes after meeting start to show up :] +21:06 <@scarabeus> :D +21:07 <@alexxy> ok +21:07 <@alexxy> bonsaikitten: !~!!! +21:07 <+krytzz> we count to ten, then shout as loud as we can +21:07 < kev009> what does use=raster for qt-gui? +21:07 <+wired> speeds things up +21:07 <+MrRat> kev009: speed! +21:07 <@scarabeus> krytzz: i would wake teh kids +21:07 <+krytzz> kev009 but breaks compositing :p +21:08 * hwoarang walks around +21:08 * scarabeus prepares editor and stuff for volting and so on :] +21:09 <@hwoarang> time is up +21:09 * wired is building live qt and kde ^_^ +21:10 <@scarabeus> actualy 50 secs +21:10 <@scarabeus> now up +21:10 <@scarabeus> ok +21:10 < kev009> krytzz: is there a document that expalins how compositing breaks? +21:10 <+reavertm> kev009 later please +21:10 <@scarabeus> i officialy start february gentoo kde meeting in year 2009 +21:10 <@scarabeus> :} +21:10 <@scarabeus> so first subject is review of old one +21:11 <@scarabeus> i think we did great job with 4.2 and we deserve some cookies :] +21:11 <@scarabeus> only thing that is missing from last month summary is pyqt/pykde and printing +21:11 <+krytzz> yeah, it was great +21:11 <@scarabeus> so how is the printing status reavertm +21:11 <@scarabeus> only testing needed or some more coding? +21:11 <+reavertm> printing status - it's reportedly working fine +21:12 <@tampakrap> so can we add it to the tree? +21:12 <+reavertm> we need maintainer +21:12 <@scarabeus> ok process will be 1 week in overlay, and then the main tree +21:12 <@scarabeus> reavertm: that is no problem +21:12 <@scarabeus> we are kde herd +21:12 <@scarabeus> we became maintainer +21:12 <@tampakrap> right +21:12 <+reavertm> system-config-printer and pycups are part of leftwovers after Donnie +21:12 <@scarabeus> i know +21:13 <+reavertm> they are straight dependecies for out printing kde stuff +21:13 <@scarabeus> but if it is fixed and working for us we canmaintain +21:13 <@scarabeus> ok there are no issues, so feel free to remove the mask from it in overlay :] +21:13 <@alexxy> scarabeus: also we should unmask networkmanager/policykit +21:13 <+reavertm> and there is one new ebuild that possibly needs to be perfected with some python deps as well - hal-cups-info (in overlay) +21:13 <@scarabeus> alexxy: that is negative my friend +21:13 <@scarabeus> we get to that +21:13 <@tampakrap> we can also start maintaining them and ask in -dev if there are any others intrested in maintaining +21:13 <+reavertm> (it's printer-applet dep) +21:13 <@jmbsvicetto> We could ask the printing herd if they want to co-maintain it +21:13 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: there is no printing herd +21:14 <@scarabeus> really i looked +21:14 <@scarabeus> they are mostly dead +21:14 <@jmbsvicetto> ok +21:14 <@jmbsvicetto> Where's tgur? +21:14 <@yngwin> paper is so last century :p +21:14 <@scarabeus> i have no clue +21:14 <@tampakrap> !seen tgurr +21:14 < Willikins> tampakrap: tgurr was last seen 6 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes and 14 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote closed the connection) +21:14 < Philantrop> jmbsvicetto: Health troubles. +21:14 <@jmbsvicetto> Philantrop: ok, thanks for the info +21:14 <@tampakrap> Philantrop: thanks +21:14 <@jmbsvicetto> Philantrop: Do you know if he's still interested in printing packages? +21:15 < Philantrop> jmbsvicetto: Mostly in cups and friends, yes. +21:16 <@scarabeus> ok in that case reavertm should speak to him :] +21:16 <@scarabeus> ok we can wait with printing on him :] +21:16 <@scarabeus> hope his sickness is not serious and he will get well soon :] +21:18 <@scarabeus> ok one more question for the last meeting +21:18 <@scarabeus> did somebody sent that mail about kde3? +21:18 <@yngwin> i havent seen any +21:18 <@scarabeus> that we actualy ask for help on them +21:18 <@scarabeus> tampakrap: so it will be your responsibility i guess +21:18 <@tampakrap> ok +21:19 <@tampakrap> i'll also talk with carlo about this +21:19 <@jmbsvicetto> oh, there was a user that had a comment in my blog entry pleading for us not to drop kde3 +21:19 <@scarabeus> we are not droping it :] +21:19 <@scarabeus> at least for now :] +21:19 <+reavertm> we're droping 4.1 :) +21:19 <+reavertm> (are we?) +21:19 <@scarabeus> and next year i guess +21:19 <@scarabeus> yup we are +21:19 <@scarabeus> as said reaver +21:19 <@scarabeus> anyone is against it? +21:20 <@scarabeus> i wolte for drop :] +21:20 <@hwoarang> +1 +21:20 <@tampakrap> drop +21:20 <+reavertm> kill it +21:20 <+wired> farewell +21:20 <@yngwin> 4.1? yes +21:20 <+Sput> +1 +21:20 <@scarabeus> 4.1 drop are we speaking about :] not the 3.5 :] +21:20 <@scarabeus> yngwin: ^ +21:20 <@yngwin> :) +21:20 <+wired> nobody will miss it anyway ^_^ +21:20 <@jmbsvicetto> bye bye 4.1 +21:20 < termite47384> hwoarang, MrRat: amarok fix0red? +21:20 <@scarabeus> ok super +21:21 <@hwoarang> termite47384 will get to it +21:21 <+Sput> absolutely no need to keep that one around +21:21 <@scarabeus> soo what is on schedule? ah jmbsvicetto you are :] +21:21 < termite47384> sorry, I was away and wasn't sure if you had already +21:21 <@hwoarang> \o/ +21:21 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: :P +21:21 <@scarabeus> btw who will do the drop +21:21 <@scarabeus> alexxy: ? +21:21 <@jmbsvicetto> 4.1? +21:21 <@scarabeus> yup +21:21 <@scarabeus> the drop +21:21 <@tampakrap> may I? +21:21 <@jmbsvicetto> sure +21:21 <@scarabeus> tampakrap: if you want :] +21:21 <+reavertm> still we need to sort packages that may explicitly depend on it +21:22 <+reavertm> so called kde-misc +21:22 <@scarabeus> there are none in the tree :] +21:22 <@tampakrap> of course +21:22 <@scarabeus> tested/fixed +21:22 <+wired> there are +21:22 <+wired> i.e. lancelot-menu +21:22 <@tampakrap> let's double check to be sure +21:22 <@scarabeus> only the powerdevil and lancelot +21:22 <@scarabeus> :] +21:22 <@scarabeus> ok +21:22 <@scarabeus> lets go and volte the leader as we promised +21:22 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: looks like you are the only aplicant +21:22 < Philantrop> *VOTE*. It's *vote*. +21:23 <@tampakrap> i'll drop it in weekend as i'll be away tomorrow (exams) +21:23 <@scarabeus> typo is still the typo +21:23 <+MrRat> The volte is a very small circle that is used in the training of a horse +21:23 <+MrRat> :) +21:23 <+reavertm> could anyone nlighten me, what exactly is this voting for? +21:23 <+wired> o_o MrRat +21:23 <@scarabeus> reavertm: kde team leader +21:23 <@scarabeus> gentoo kde team leader +21:24 <+reavertm> ah, I got confused with Donnie stepping out from desktop lead +21:24 <@scarabeus> so jmbsvicetto why we should volte for you, some promotial i guess :] +21:24 <+reavertm> *down +21:24 <@scarabeus> again +21:24 <@scarabeus> why the crap i write volte +21:24 <@scarabeus> i know it is vote :P +21:24 < dberkholz> well. i can't really step out till someone else steps in +21:24 < dberkholz> till then, i make a great figurehead +21:24 <@yngwin> :) +21:25 <@scarabeus> :D +21:25 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: hmm, because you were impressed with me in FOSDEM? ;) +21:25 <@scarabeus> :] +21:25 <+reavertm> ok, +1 on Jorge +21:25 <@yngwin> +1 +21:26 <@alexxy> scarabeus: yep =) i can drop 4.1.x +21:26 <+krytzz> i dont know if i have the right to vote but, +1 +21:26 <+Sput> _1 +21:26 <@scarabeus> alexxy: too late :] +21:26 <+Sput> eh +21:26 <+Sput> +1 +21:26 <@hwoarang> +1 +21:26 <+wired> +1 +21:26 <@alexxy> and i vote for jmbsvicetto to be kde lead +21:26 <@scarabeus> actualy it counts only from devs :} +21:26 < rane> gratz jmbsvicetto +21:26 <@scarabeus> but i suggest the other way +21:26 <@jmbsvicetto> dberkholz: You make much more than a figurehead, but we're very happy with your figurehead ;) +21:26 <@scarabeus> who is against +21:26 <+Sput> meh, I can still give my moral support :) +21:26 <@jmbsvicetto> rane: :) +21:27 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: you might want to count the positive votes ;) +21:27 <@scarabeus> and ftr i volte for him too +21:27 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: hehe (volte) ;) +21:27 <@tampakrap> jmbsvicetto++ +21:27 * Sput applies 240 volts to scarabeus +21:27 <@scarabeus> sdamn +21:27 <+wired> lmao +21:27 <+MrRat> haha +21:27 <@scarabeus> ok you have 5 votes now +21:27 <+wired> beat a typo with a typo, thats something ^_^ +21:28 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: Don't know if you want to count deathwing00's vote +21:28 <@scarabeus> oh right 6 +21:28 <+MrRat> +1 +21:28 <+MrRat> count me +21:28 <@scarabeus> hwoarang: ping dude +21:28 <@hwoarang> i did say +1 +21:29 <@hwoarang> :) +21:29 <@scarabeus> ok 7 +21:29 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: who's missing? bonsaikitten, cryo? +21:29 <@scarabeus> yup +21:29 <@jmbsvicetto> c/cryo/cryos/ +21:29 <@scarabeus> we can count kittens volte on fosdem? +21:29 <@tampakrap> keytoaster and tgurr +21:29 <@tampakrap> and carlo +21:30 <@yngwin> and caleb +21:30 <+reavertm> ok, lets' go further - 7 is enough already :) +21:30 <@jmbsvicetto> and corsair and genstef if we look at the kde page +21:30 <@scarabeus> those are kde devs? +21:30 <@jmbsvicetto> according to the page +21:30 <@hwoarang> are they active or smtg? +21:30 <@jmbsvicetto> Not in a long time, afaik +21:30 <@scarabeus> actualy i remember somebody promised that he will clean that up :] +21:31 <@jmbsvicetto> So, do I get to wear the KDE royal crown or what? ;) +21:31 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: ok you are the leader +21:31 <@hwoarang> \o/ +21:31 <@scarabeus> nobody volted against actualy :] +21:31 <@yngwin> hail jmbsvicetto +21:31 <@jmbsvicetto> :) +21:31 * scarabeus bows in front of our new leader +21:31 <@tampakrap> congratulations!! +21:31 <@hwoarang> and as a leader you should provide us some free beers +21:31 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: btw you have to update the page yourself, i hate cvs :] +21:31 <@jmbsvicetto> Thanks for the confidence guys +21:31 <+krytzz> right +21:31 <@alexxy> he he =) +21:31 <@jmbsvicetto> :) +21:32 <@alexxy> congratulations jmbsvicetto +21:32 <@tampakrap> POP *champagne* +21:32 <@yngwin> i can update the webpage +21:32 <@yngwin> need to edit it anyway +21:32 <@jmbsvicet> yngwin: thanks +21:32 <@yngwin> np +21:33 <@scarabeus> ok this was actualy funniest part of the meeting +21:33 <@scarabeus> things that will came are not that nice +21:33 <@alexxy> yep +21:33 <@yngwin> so grab another beer +21:34 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: so I guess I can just leave now ;) +21:34 <@scarabeus> grm +21:34 <@scarabeus> actualy you should be leading the discussion now ;P +21:34 <@jmbsvicetto> hehed +21:34 <@scarabeus> ok lets start with upstream and prefixing thingie +21:34 <@scarabeus> i think that is something you have something to say about :] +21:35 <+reavertm> hmm? please introduce topic +21:35 <+reavertm> ah, kdeprefixing +21:35 <+reavertm> but what part of exactly? +21:35 <@tampakrap> i'll change topic +21:36 <+reavertm> no noe +21:36 <@scarabeus> not kdeprefixing +21:36 tampakrap changed the topic of #gentoo-kde to: Official gentoo-kde project channel | KDE 4 guide: http://tinyurl.com/4n47v4 | Next meeting 12/02/2009@20:00 UTC |Overlays: kde-testing, qting-edge | Want to help us? Ask channel staff for info | Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/kdebugs1 http://xrl.us/qtbugs | Useful links: http://userbase.kde.org/ http://ktown.kde.org/~dirk/dashboard | jmbsvicetto is the new leader!! +21:36 <@scarabeus> instaling multiple kde versions in one prefix +21:36 <+reavertm> hmm, how? +21:36 <+reavertm> elaborate please :) +21:36 <@scarabeus> that what jorge has to do +21:36 <@scarabeus> i have not much clue +21:36 jmbsvicetto changed the topic of #gentoo-kde to: Official gentoo-kde project channel | KDE 4 guide: http://tinyurl.com/4n47v4 | meeting: now - multiple installs under 1 prefix |Overlays: kde-testing, qting-edge | Want to help us? Ask channel staff for info | Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/kdebugs1 http://xrl.us/qtbugs | Useful links: http://userbase.kde.org/ http://ktown.kde.org/~dirk/dashboard | jmbsvicetto is the new leader!! +21:37 <+reavertm> I would like to hear what's all about first +21:37 <@jmbsvicetto> ok +21:37 <@jmbsvicetto> We were talking in FOSDEM that the real solution to our kdeprefix issues is to get KDE support for multiple versions in the same prefix +21:38 <+reavertm> eselect? +21:38 <@jmbsvicetto> To get that, we'll need versioned libs and we could use versioned apps (possibly with some symlinks to choose the default versions to use) +21:38 <@alexxy> hmm +21:38 * reavertm shuts up +21:38 <@alexxy> that will be good +21:38 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: that was one option presented +21:38 <@scarabeus> which sounds most reasonable +21:38 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: I thought it wasn't the best option - at least according to users. But if we get the versioned libs+apps, than it could be a good solution +21:38 <@alexxy> jmbsvicetto: what was another option? +21:39 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: the eselect would only select the "default" version +21:39 <+reavertm> what do you mean - versioned libs/apps +21:39 --rangerhom- is now known as rangerpb +21:39 <@scarabeus> sonames pn-version and so on +21:39 <@alexxy> jmbsvicetto: you mean that konsoel would be konsole-4.2.0 ? +21:39 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: having kwrite-4.1 or libkdeinit4_kinfocenter.so.4.2.0 +21:40 <@scarabeus> alexxy: only 4.2 +21:40 * Sput wouldn't add support for point releases +21:40 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: probably 4.2 +21:40 <@scarabeus> :} +21:40 <@alexxy> hmm +21:40 <+wired> upstream is willing to do something like that? +21:40 <+Sput> though this will of course screw up tab completion :( +21:40 <@scarabeus> upstream is willing to accept our patches for that +21:40 <+Sput> no more automatic space! +21:40 <+Sput> ooh, upstream should do that, rather than us? +21:40 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: the idea of the symlinks would be to have a konsole that would point to the version the user wants. Anyone using 4.2 as their default version, could still run 4.1 with konsole-4.1 or live with konsole-live +21:41 <@alexxy> ok +21:41 <+wired> this sounds so much cleaner than kdeprefix +21:41 <@alexxy> what will be with .desktop files? +21:41 <@jmbsvicetto> Sput: That would be the best option, but it doesn't seem likely they'll want to do it by themselves +21:41 <+reavertm> and messy +21:41 <+reavertm> what about shared data? +21:41 <+Sput> also this would allow other distros (with no concept of slotted installs) to support multiple versions easily +21:41 <@jmbsvicetto> Sput: They were however somewhat open to accept our patches to get it done +21:42 <@tampakrap> alexxy and reavertm made some good points +21:42 <+reavertm> like kbuildsysoca area of interest? +21:42 <@scarabeus> reavertm: actualy it is easy to suffix any filename with cmake so it can be all sufixed correctly +21:42 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: We could have /usr/share/kde/<version>/* or /usr/share/kde/<pkg>-<version> +21:43 <+reavertm> for me it's just a rehash of kdeprefix but with messed up files and separate - swtitched shared data areas +21:43 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: kdeprefix was never the best option. It was just the easy way to get around the fact that kde doesn't version libs/apps +21:43 <+reavertm> it would be easier to just eselect using kdeprefix +21:43 <@scarabeus> actualy this one would mean pretty nice elimination of kdeprefix really +21:43 <@jmbsvicetto> yes +21:44 <+reavertm> and actualy selected version of KDE would be target destination of actually built kde-misc package +21:44 <@scarabeus> reavertm: dependency nightmare +21:44 <@scarabeus> really +21:44 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: that seems worse, imho +21:45 <+reavertm> scarabeus we have deps already set per ebuild +21:45 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: Instead, with this proposal, kde-misc packages could link directly the unversioned deps +21:45 <@alexxy> ohh +21:45 <@alexxy> deps hell +21:45 <@scarabeus> reavertm: as said jmbsvicetto ^^ +21:45 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: The issue it raises is that KDE keeps breaking ABI which would break the packages +21:45 <@scarabeus> you could with this enable easy linking and it would be correct +21:45 <+Sput> well, easiest would just be going back to good old slots. :> +21:45 <@scarabeus> Sput: grm +21:45 <@alexxy> jmbsvicetto: what will be with misc apps that only works with for example kde>=4.3 +21:45 <@jmbsvicetto> Sput: we have slots :P +21:46 <@scarabeus> they link to the kdelibs.so-4.3.0 +21:46 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: well, you're not going to like my answer, but *pkgconfig* +21:46 <@scarabeus> for example +21:46 <+Sput> jmbsvicetto: KDE is no longer supposed to break ABI +21:46 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: kdelibs-4.3 I would say +21:46 <@scarabeus> or pkgconfig is even better :] +21:46 <@scarabeus> Sput: they did it. +21:46 <@scarabeus> so we can expect more +21:47 <@jmbsvicetto> What we can do in the future, is to be very active in the kde-packagers / kde-build mls and don't let them get away with ABI breakage +21:48 <@alexxy> hmm +21:48 <@jmbsvicetto> Now, who would like to work on this and does anyone have any ideas on how to get it started? +21:48 <@alexxy> so kde upstream will accept splitting of kde apps? +21:49 <+reavertm> where are kde-misc packages installed and are they subject to versioning as well? +21:49 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: They will start doing it for 4.3 +21:49 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: I would say /usr and yes +21:50 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: Perhaps only between major versions +21:50 <@alexxy> hmm +21:50 <@alexxy> thats will be good +21:50 <+reavertm> so the only thing that's to be done is switching XDG_DATA_DIRS? +21:50 <@alexxy> they idea to add svn rev to snapshots was bad +21:50 <@scarabeus> probably in basic +21:50 <@scarabeus> but also adding sonames and so on +21:50 <@scarabeus> alexxy: that is other point +21:50 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: scarabeus mailed them about it +21:50 <@scarabeus> i already sent the mail +21:50 <@scarabeus> but get no response +21:51 <@scarabeus> for 4 days now +21:51 <@scarabeus> so i think we need to push it more +21:51 <@scarabeus> where is the best place? +21:51 <+reavertm> ok, I have a question - how is versioning binaries going to be implemented? +21:51 <+reavertm> via symlinks or shell scripts that set proper env for them? +21:51 <+reavertm> (scripts means overhead) +21:52 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: I think we should add the version when we install +21:52 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: We also need to write an eselect backend that can help manage the symlinks +21:54 <+reavertm> with eselect env may be switched right away - just like in java-config +21:54 <@scarabeus> btw you are planning way ahead i think, now we should think about who is willing to work on it :] +21:54 <+wired> jmbsvicetto: you said upstream will accept patches for versioning, wouldn't that eliminate the need for env switching? +21:54 <+reavertm> so only symlinks would be sufficient +21:54 * jmbsvicet puts the crown and starts delegating +21:54 <@jmbsvicetto> ;) +21:55 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: dont look at me +21:55 <@jmbsvicetto> wired: If we want to have both around, we'll need the 2 +21:55 <+reavertm> wired env switchig is XDG_DATA_DIRS at least +21:55 <@scarabeus> i will be busy with the other distro patches sharing +21:55 <@jmbsvicetto> wired: unless users are willing to run kwrite-4.1 and amarok-2, instead of kwrite and amarok +21:55 * bonsaikit fell asleep ... +21:55 <+wired> if kde shipped kwrite-4.2 binary +21:55 <@jmbsvicetto> bonsaikitten: Got that bored? :P +21:55 <+wired> we would only need a symlink to make it run +21:56 <@scarabeus> bonsaikitten: tell me your volte ;P +21:56 <@jmbsvicetto> lol +21:56 <@scarabeus> :] +21:56 <@scarabeus> i am just curious +21:56 <@scarabeus> he wont be included :D +21:56 <@jmbsvicetto> wired: yes, but that's what we need eselect for +21:56 <@bonsaikitten> I vote for freedom +21:56 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: lol -> "volte" ;) +21:56 <@scarabeus> ah +21:56 <@scarabeus> sdflhsdlfgksdhs +21:56 * bonsaikit still isn't coherent +21:56 <+wired> jmbsvicetto: i agree, i was refering to env switching, not symlink management +21:57 <@jmbsvicetto> wired: ok +21:57 <+Sput> bonsaikitten: nobody was talking about voting, you are supposed to do a little volte... +21:57 <+reavertm> I like the idea in general +21:57 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: what can we do to start the work? +21:57 <@jmbsvicetto> (since you are our cmake expert) +21:58 <@alexxy> write module for eselect +21:58 <@scarabeus> alexxy: that might be actualy last point +21:58 <@bonsaikitten> Sput: re-volt-ing? +21:58 <+reavertm> yeah, that's the magic part +21:58 <+wired> eselect is probably the last of our issues +21:58 <+reavertm> me expert? no.. +21:59 <@scarabeus> reavertm: yes you are our expert :] +21:59 <+reavertm> besides I can't answer about this off the top of my head right away +21:59 <@scarabeus> ok who is willing to work on this: +21:59 <@scarabeus> it is more upstream than gentoo +21:59 <@scarabeus> ? +21:59 <@jmbsvicetto> I'll have to look at it +22:00 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: can I nag you about cmake for this? +22:00 <+reavertm> I'll look into it +22:01 <@scarabeus> anyone else? +22:01 <@scarabeus> *doggyeyes* +22:01 <@scarabeus> or actualy *puppyeyes* +22:01 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: Thanks for your offer +22:01 <@scarabeus> that sad look :] +22:01 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: i will be quite fine with patch cooperation +22:01 <@scarabeus> :P +22:01 * jmbsvicet just made his first lead decision +22:01 <@jmbsvicetto> :P +22:01 <@scarabeus> :D +22:01 <@alexxy> heh =) +22:01 <@alexxy> btw +22:01 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: ok and mine lead decision is delegat +22:02 <@scarabeus> e +22:02 <@scarabeus> so HTs what are you doing? :P +22:02 <@alexxy> whet will be with kde 3.5? +22:02 <@scarabeus> alexxy: that is on tampakrap, dont worry :] +22:02 <@tampakrap> mostly on carlo i'd say +22:02 <@jmbsvicetto> bonsaikitten: Anyway we can use your tinderbox for helping with the testing? +22:02 <@alexxy> there still parts of 3.5.7 3.58 3.5.9 and 3.510 +22:03 <@yngwin> i'd say drop 3.5.{7,8} +22:03 <@yngwin> and stabilize .10 asap +22:03 <@scarabeus> ok that is good idea +22:03 <@scarabeus> get rid of 7.8 +22:03 <@jmbsvicetto> yeah, but we need to check arches keywords +22:03 <@scarabeus> the arch teams has plenty time up to now to stable 3.5.9 on all needed arch +22:03 <+reavertm> stabilize 3.5.10 with revbumping kde-misc to be installed in /usr/kde/3.5? +22:03 <@scarabeus> yep +22:04 <@alexxy> yep +22:04 <@alexxy> but 3.5.8 is monolitic +22:04 <@alexxy> last monolitic release +22:04 <@scarabeus> that is no problem +22:04 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: 3.5.9 +22:04 <@scarabeus> and 3.5.9 is mono to +22:04 <@alexxy> so we can drop it =) +22:04 <@jmbsvicetto> 3.5.10 was teh first release without monos +22:05 <@jmbsvicetto> we need to check arch keywords as at least mips will probably lose all keywords +22:05 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: well since mips is only ~ and they had actualy pretty long time to do it up to now... +22:06 <@scarabeus> but ok, lets poke them +22:06 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: let's talk to them +22:06 <@alexxy> heh +22:06 <@alexxy> i can test kde on ~mips +22:06 * reavertm has his own 3 agenda points on the list +22:06 <@alexxy> =) +22:06 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: actualy alexxy can do it :] +22:06 <@scarabeus> late +22:06 <@scarabeus> :D +22:07 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: are you in the mips arch team? +22:07 <@alexxy> seems they add me +22:07 <@alexxy> =) +22:07 <@alexxy> i have mips machine @work +22:07 <@alexxy> running gentoo +22:07 <@jmbsvicetto> Good :) +22:07 <@alexxy> also i have premison to add arm keywords +22:07 <@alexxy> =) +22:08 <+wired> so our kde4 upstream patches goal is to patch cmake to build/install everything version-prefixed with version-suffixed binaries? +22:08 <@scarabeus> alexxy: ok i delegate this point to you :] +22:08 <@scarabeus> ok one last thing from me +22:08 <@scarabeus> cooperating with reasonable distributions in patches sharing +22:09 <@alexxy> jmbsvicetto: i'll test kde:4.2 on mips +22:09 <@scarabeus> reasonable as debian for example +22:09 <@scarabeus> not as suse +22:09 <@hwoarang> scarabeus: like? +22:09 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: ok, thanks +22:09 <@scarabeus> hwoarang: like they have upstream and downstream patches we would like so we use them +22:09 <+Sput> you mean: distros backporting features from 4.3 trunk to 4.1 stable are not reasonable? :) +22:09 <@scarabeus> and in return we share our patches +22:09 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: We can work with any distro - it all depends on their work ;) +22:09 <@scarabeus> for that i wrote this +22:09 <@scarabeus> http://dev.gentoo.org/~scarabeus/patches-glep.html +22:09 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: i know +22:10 <@scarabeus> but i think we should make our patches nicely accessable like debian do +22:10 <+dagger_> I just came back home ;( +22:10 <@scarabeus> dagger_: bad for ya :] +22:10 <+reavertm> we use sed :P +22:10 <+Sput> System Message: ERROR/3 (patches-glep.txt, line 65) +22:10 <+Sput> Unexpected indentation. +22:10 <+Sput> coool : +22:10 <@scarabeus> i know +22:10 <+Sput> :) +22:10 <@scarabeus> it is not finished +22:11 <@scarabeus> christ why i showed it to you +22:11 <@scarabeus> i thought that somebody start complaining +22:11 <+Sput> :D +22:11 <@scarabeus> notes for this one will be accepted on my mail for now +22:11 <@scarabeus> until i get it into some reasonable shape for anouncing +22:12 <@hwoarang> your abstract idea is quite resonable +22:12 <@hwoarang> have you talked about this with other distro dudes? +22:12 <@tampakrap> we had a small chat with a debian-kde guy at fosdem +22:12 <@scarabeus> yep i talked with kde +22:12 <@scarabeus> debina +22:12 <@scarabeus> craaap +22:13 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: You'll want to talk to infra and security teams about your proposal +22:13 <@scarabeus> yes i will do it +22:13 <@scarabeus> when i finish it +22:13 <@scarabeus> :P +22:13 <@jmbsvicetto> hehe +22:13 <@scarabeus> i dont want to come there with my hands empty +22:13 <@scarabeus> i would feel lame +22:14 <@scarabeus> so you know that i am on this one +22:14 <@scarabeus> that is everything from my side +22:14 <@scarabeus> anyone what do you have to discuss +22:14 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: Did we cover all business in the agenda? +22:15 <@scarabeus> the things i pointed out +22:15 <@scarabeus> but this month i didnt get notes from others +22:15 <@scarabeus> (short time) +22:15 <+reavertm> ok... pykde4? +22:15 <@scarabeus> that is why i ask now +22:15 <@scarabeus> that bonsaikitten said that he will look on it +22:15 <@scarabeus> last meeting +22:15 <@scarabeus> :D +22:15 <+reavertm> that's the problem :) +22:16 <+reavertm> ok, another one +22:16 <+reavertm> what about non-SLOTted sets? +22:16 <@alexxy> btw +22:16 <@alexxy> when sets will be added to tree? +22:16 <+reavertm> I'd propose to remove them or made symlinks -> @kdebase -> @kdebase-4.2 and so on +22:17 <@tampakrap> are the symlinks valid? +22:17 <+reavertm> because unSLOTtted sets pulll all versions from every SLOT +22:17 <+reavertm> (in overlay) +22:17 <+reavertm> alexxy no +22:17 <+reavertm> never :) +22:17 <+reavertm> tampakrap why they coudn't be? +22:17 <@scarabeus> reavertm: good idea +22:18 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: That needs more time +22:18 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: we need to get an agreement about it +22:18 <@alexxy> ohh +22:18 <@alexxy> =( +22:18 <@tampakrap> reavertm: i don't know, i'm just asking :) +22:18 <@scarabeus> tampakrap: it works +22:18 <@yngwin> i guess that means at least waiting till portage 2.2.0 final release +22:18 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: the unversioned set should match the last version +22:19 <@tampakrap> last version of portage kde or of snapshots? +22:19 <+reavertm> yes +22:19 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: wait, you want them to have slotted deps? They can't +22:19 <+reavertm> those would be symlinks to latest set (but versioned one) +22:19 <+reavertm> jmbsvicetto it simplyfies upgrade +22:19 <@alexxy> yep +22:20 <+reavertm> I want unslotted sets to be removed or changed to symlinks to corresponding slotted sets +22:20 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: The unversioned deps should match the last version with sed s/:.*$// +22:20 <@alexxy> but unversioned sets should point to latest in tree slot +22:21 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: We need/want users to run the unversioned sets for installing - thus it can't have slotted deps +22:21 <+reavertm> jmbsvicetto wait wait +22:21 <+reavertm> there would be @kdebase set - the only difference would be, it would be symlink to @kdebase-4.2 +22:22 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: but that would mean it would have a kdebase-startkde:4.2 dep +22:22 <@tampakrap> aka latest portage version +22:22 <+reavertm> how are deps related? +22:22 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: I'm thinking :P +22:22 <+reavertm> they would be symlinks to latest portage version +22:23 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: I understand what you're trying to do. It might be the easiest option and it might even work +22:23 <+reavertm> (just like they are now) - but with SLOT definition so that we actually pull only that slot +22:23 < Enrico[ITA]> hi guys! if here there is some dev of kde-testing overlay there are some missing deps in kde-3.5.keywords file: kde-base/kde-i18n:3.5 ~kde-base/dcoppython-3.5.10 (and app-pda/libopensync but this is not part of kde ^^) +22:23 <@jmbsvicetto> Enrico[ITA]: we're in the middle of a meeting. Stick around and we can talk about it later +22:24 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: ok, I think I can live with it +22:24 <@tampakrap> i agree with that too +22:24 <+reavertm> jmbsvicetto well, it doesn't change anything from user perspective +22:24 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: my concern was that we might be restricting users to a specific slot +22:24 < Enrico[ITA]> jmbsvicetto: oh don't warry it is not a huge issue ^^. but ok i can wait no problem ^^ +22:24 <@scarabeus> yeah it should work +22:24 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: that should be working correctly +22:25 <@scarabeus> the update with this +22:25 <@scarabeus> iirc the behavior portage does +22:25 <+reavertm> well, we would be responsible for managing those symlinks in overlay +22:25 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm / scarabeus: yes, I see it should work +22:25 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: hmm, I do hope to get those sets in the tree - one day, one day +22:26 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: actually, if/when zmedico gets to re-work the sets, we might just have unversioned sets +22:26 <+reavertm> yeah +22:26 < Enrico[ITA]> well since you are in the middle of a meeting think about mark kde 3.5.10 as stable (and maybe even kde4.2!!!!) well i'm just kidding don't ban me ihihihi :P +22:26 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: or we would, if upstream stopped playing with moving apps between tarballs and renaming apps +22:26 < Enrico[ITA]> i don't speak no more promise ^^ +22:27 <+reavertm> well, it's up to us how we split packagees jmbsvicetto :) +22:27 * reavertm likes good refactoring +22:27 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: we'll have to follow the work being done for 4.3 +22:27 <@jmbsvicetto> :) +22:28 <@tampakrap> that's why snapshots and :live are :) +22:28 <@tampakrap> we were following 4.2 pretty well if you recall +22:28 <@jmbsvicetto> yes, but they're talking about splitting packages for 4.3 +22:29 <@jmbsvicetto> They seem willing to break apps, but not libs +22:29 <@jmbsvicetto> I think we should probably rethink the way we split libs and kdebase-runtime/kdebase-workspace +22:29 <@alexxy> why? +22:29 <@tampakrap> so what? i rebuild live every two days i follow changes +22:30 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: we probably don't need to split it up so much +22:30 <+reavertm> probably +22:30 <@alexxy> well i think current split are pretty well =) +22:30 <+reavertm> I'd vote for debian-like splitting scheme +22:31 <+reavertm> they split kdepim completely (like we do) but kdebase-workspace /runtime not that much +22:31 <@alexxy> reavertm: what it looks like? +22:31 <@tampakrap> ok i'll have a look at this +22:31 <+reavertm> (as those apps need to be installed for kde to work anyway) +22:31 <+reavertm> (they split plasma from kdelibs - for now reason whatsoever) +22:32 <@alexxy> hmmm +22:33 <+reavertm> ok, and I have another idea - drop kdepimlibs from DEPEND in eclass +22:33 <@alexxy> last time i take a look at debian it was using kde 2.x or 1.x dont remember +22:33 <+reavertm> I made alittle research and there are just some components that actually need it +22:34 <+reavertm> and plenty of people crying aabout mysql deps (akonadi server is pulled by kdepimlibs) +22:34 <+reavertm> alexxy well... you can look at Kubuntu... +22:34 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: seems like aseigo was willing to split plasma from kdelibs too +22:34 <+reavertm> it's debian afterall +22:34 <@tampakrap> upstream is going to import other dbs as well +22:34 <+reavertm> tampakrap any evidence? +22:34 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: if we can drop it, we should +22:34 <@tampakrap> fosdem talks :) +22:34 <@jmbsvicetto> (kdepimlibs) +22:34 <+reavertm> apart tahat techbase article saying that itis possible to implement but not planned? +22:35 <@jmbsvicetto> tampakrap: s/import/support/ ? +22:35 <+reavertm> jmbsvicetto yeah, we can +22:35 <+reavertm> I've made a list for kde-base stuff that needs it (I was grepping KdepimLibs in cmakelistx.txt in tarballs +22:36 <@jmbsvicetto> reavertm: ok, I'll look at it +22:36 <+reavertm> jmbsvicetto no, you "encourage" kitten to take care of pykde4 :) +22:36 <@jmbsvicetto> hehe +22:37 * jmbsvicet picks up the whip and calls for bonsaikitten +22:37 <@jmbsvicetto> kitten, kitten +22:38 <@scarabeus> :D +22:38 <@scarabeus> ouka i am back +22:38 <@scarabeus> what i sleft +22:38 <@scarabeus> (sorry i feel really dizzy today) +22:39 <+MrRat> reavertm: yes more db support is coming for akonadi +22:39 <+MrRat> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Akonadi_FAQ +22:40 <@jmbsvicetto> What are we still missing for today? +22:40 <+MrRat> a crazy hack at fixing amarok2 for qt-4.5 +22:40 <@tampakrap> yes, me and scarabeus saw it at fosdem talk of the debian kde packager +22:41 <@scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: i dont know +22:41 <@scarabeus> i dont have anything for adding +22:41 <@scarabeus> anyone else something? +22:41 <@ hwoarang> yngwin do we have something to add? +22:42 <@scarabeus> hwoarang, yngwin: actualy you two could you test qt-4.5 on kde-4.2 and spread patches? :] +22:42 <@ yngwin|2> kde4 doesnt work here +22:42 <@tampakrap> y? +22:42 <@hwoarang> works here though +22:43 <@hwoarang> scarabeus who this thing gonna work? +22:43 <@alexxy> http://dpaste.com/119912/ +22:43 <@hwoarang> gentoo qt <-> gentoo kde <-> kde upstream +22:43 <@alexxy> list of kde-3.5.[45678] ebuilds +22:43 <+wired> i can help on qt4.5/kde4.2 testing :) +22:43 <@hwoarang> we need to CC kde@gentoo.org on every kde4+qt4-5 related issue +22:43 <@ alexxy> yngwin: hwoarang: plasma segfaults with qt 4.5 if you dont recompile it +22:44 <@alexxy> same for knotify +22:44 <@hwoarang> there is a topic on kde forums +22:44 <@hwoarang> kde-4.2+qt-4.5 +22:44 <@tampakrap> recompile qt or knotify? +22:44 <@alexxy> so you two should add it to ewarn +22:44 <@hwoarang> maybe it will be good to monitor it +22:44 <@alexxy> recompile knotify and plasma-workspace +22:45 <@hwoarang> alexxy: we need to narrow down what should be rebuild +22:45 <@hwoarang> if something fails +22:45 <+reavertm> I guess I'm out of ideas for today as well +22:45 <@hwoarang> and i think that our ewarn message is quite clean +22:45 <@hwoarang> "if something fails, rebuild it" +22:45 <@alexxy> yep +22:45 <@jmbsvicetto> alexxy: the kde packages segfault after qt upgrade is an old issue +22:45 <@tampakrap> are these talks still on the meeting? +22:45 <@alexxy> but you only mention kdelibs +22:45 <@hwoarang> this is what every qt package states on pkg_postinst +22:45 <@alexxy> =) +22:46 <@alexxy> jmbsvicetto: i know +22:46 <@hwoarang> if this solution is valid i ll add it +22:46 <@alexxy> but for 3.5 only kdelibs was needed to be recompiled +22:46 <@hwoarang> but there is a report on forums that libplasma+ plasma-workspace didn solve it +22:46 <@alexxy> for 4.2 its at least kdelibs and plasma-workspace +22:47 <+MrRat> if sets were in portage an @kde-4.2 would solve it +22:47 <+MrRat> :P +22:47 <@alexxy> he he +22:47 <@hwoarang> so , from my part i ll CC kde@g.o alias on every mixed kde4+qt4.5 bug +22:47 <@hwoarang> to work it together +22:47 <@scarabeus> http://pastebin.ca/1335397 +22:48 <@scarabeus> reformat add on cvs +22:48 <@hwoarang> i wish i could do it on bugs.kde.org too +22:48 <@scarabeus> i am sick and going to sleep +22:48 <@scarabeus> i hope i wont be needed today anymore +22:48 <@tampakrap> i guess meeting is over +22:49 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: You should end the meeting then ;) +22:49 <@jmbsvicetto> hwoarang: what are you missing in bgo ? +22:49 <@tampakrap> you are the leader +22:49 <@hwoarang> mmm +22:49 <@jmbsvicetto> ah, bko +22:50 <@hwoarang> every time i try to add a gentoo alias +22:50 <@hwoarang> it slaps me +22:50 <@hwoarang> ah +22:50 * jmbsvicet puts the hat and officialy ends the meeting +22:50 <@hwoarang> no on bgo +22:50 <@hwoarang> on bugs.kde.org +22:50 <@jmbsvicetto> yeah, I noticed it after I asked +22:50 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: just one issue before you go, if you have 2 minutes +22:52 <@scarabeus> ook +22:53 <@scarabeus> listening +22:53 < arachnist> so, since the meeting has ended +22:53 < arachnist> is there a nice, working networkmanager plasmoid for kde-4.2? :> +22:53 < arachnist> preferably with an ebuild +22:54 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: About the meetings, do you want me to start doing the preparation work or would you be willing to keep doing it? +22:54 <@scarabeus> i am willing to keep doing it if you want :] +22:54 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: You've been doing a great job and I don't want to take away that pleasure from you ;) +22:54 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: thanks +22:54 <@scarabeus> it is not pleasure ;D +22:54 <@scarabeus> but i will do it +22:54 <@jmbsvicetto> Hehe +22:54 <@scarabeus> since nobody else wants to do it :] +22:55 <@jmbsvicetto> ok, meeting in 1 month? +22:55 <@scarabeus> arachnist: there is networkmanager-applet-9999 in kde-testing +22:55 <@jmbsvicetto> I think we should review the date as I missed the council meeting today :\ +22:55 <+MrRat> arachnist: networkmanager-applet ebuild is in kde-testing, but in short, networkmanager nor the applet work well. +22:56 <+MrRat> arachnist: use wicd +22:56 < arachnist> wicd? +22:56 <+MrRat> yes +22:56 < arachnist> it needs gtk +22:56 <@scarabeus> yup 1 per month +22:56 <@scarabeus> feel free to change the date +22:56 < arachnist> there;s a reason i have gtk+ in package mask +22:56 < Pesa> may i ask if you could remove the new hard dep on qt-phonon for Qt 4.5, making it optional? +22:56 <@scarabeus> i just randomly picked +22:56 < arachnist> there's* +22:56 <+MrRat> wicd works great and you can start wicd-client in kde4's ststem settings autostart and it works great +22:57 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: ok +22:57 < arachnist> not a very valid one, but there is ;> +22:57 <@jmbsvicetto> scarabeus: I think we might opt for the 1st Thursday of the month +22:57 <@jmbsvicetto> I'll ask in the alias/ml +22:57 <@scarabeus> that is already in there or not? +22:57 <@scarabeus> :D +22:57 <@jmbsvicetto> ok, I'm going to eat something +22:58 <@yngwin> Pesa: there is no hard dep on qt-phonon +22:58 <@scarabeus> on the first Wednesday/Thursday of every month at 19:00 UTC +22:58 <@scarabeus> indeed i wrote this ;} diff --git a/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-summary-20090212.txt b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-summary-20090212.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..288437c --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-summary-20090212.txt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +KDE PPLE AROUND: +alexxy, tampakrap, wired, hwoarang, scarabeus, yngwin, Sput, jmbsvicetto, reavertm, krytzz, +EXCUSED: +cryos, deathwing00, tgurr +NOT EXCUSED: +the rest :P + +Review of previous: +update for 4.2 went ok. Some minor issues :] +there is missing review for pyqt/pykde and printing stuff, that will be deffered until somebody step up for the fixing/testing. + +This one: +droping of 4.1. - tampakrap + +voting for leader -> jmbsvicetto, he get 7 voltes from devs (alexxy, tampakrap, hwoarang, scarabeus, yngwin, deathwing00) rest is not around so deal with it :] +all hail to the new leader jmbsvicetto :P + +prefixing and using multiple versions of the kde in one prefix -> cooperation with upstream +installing libs and things versioned and use eselect to pick the one we want... +read the log around 21:30 and keep going for this one +jmbsvicetto, reavertm, maybe somebody more + +3.5 - dropping the old .7 and .8 +poke archies about stabling and checking keywords on .9 +alexxy is going to do this one + +patches sharing with other distros +new patching glep, help wanted and i welcome any critic on current state (on mail until i anounce on -dev). +http://dev.gentoo.org/~scarabeus/patches-glep.html +scarabeus + +pykde - needs love, unprefixing probably, who will do it? + +and more and more...
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